Digha Nikaya - Tevijja Sutta

XIII. TEVIJJA SUTTA.
[ON KNOWLEDGE OF THE VEDAS{1}.]

[235] 1. Thus have I heard. When the Exalted One was once journeying through
Kosala with a great company of the brethren, with about five hundred brethren,
he came to the Brahman village in Kosala which is called Manasâkata. And there
at Manasâkata the Exalted One stayed in the mango grove, on the bank of the
river Akiravatî, to the north of Manasâkata.
2. Now at that time many very distinguished and wealthy Brahmans were staying
at Manasâkata; to wit, Kankî the Brahman, Târukkha the Brahman, Pokkharasâdi the
Brahman, Gânussoni the Brahman, Todeyya the Brahman, and other very
distinguished and wealthy Brahmans{2}.
{1. This Suttanta was translated from the MSS. in my 'Buddhist Suttas' (S. B.
E., 1881). Since then the text has been published by the Pâli Text Society; and
alterations and amendments in a number of details have been rendered necessary.
2. Buddhaghosa says that--
Kankî lived at Opasâda,
Târukkha lived at Ikkhagala (so MSS., perhaps for Ikkhânangala),
Pokkharasâdi (sic MS.) lived at Ukkattha,
Gânussoni lived at Savatthi, and
Todeyya lived at Tudigama.
Gânussoni was converted by the Bhaya-bherava Sutta. On Pokkharasâdi, see above,
pp. 108, 135, 147; and on Todeyya, see above, p. 267; and on all the names, see
Magghima Nikaya, No. 98 = Sutta Nipata III, 9.
Buddhaghosa adds that because Manasâkata was a pleasant place the Brahmans had
built huts there on the bank of the river and fenced them in, and used to go and
stay there from time to time to repeat their mantras.}
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3. Now a conversation sprung up between Vâsettha and Bhâradvâga, when they
were taking exercise (after their bath) and walking up and down in thoughtful
mood, as to which was the true path, and which the false{1}.'
4. The young Brahman Vâsettha spake thus:
'This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation,
and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ. I
mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Pokkharasâdi.'
5. The young Brahman Bhâradvâga spake thus:
'This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation,
and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ.
[236] I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Târukkha.'
6. But neither was the young Brahman Vâsettha able to convince the young
Brahman Bhâradvâga, nor was the young Brahman Bhâradvâga able to convince the
young Brahman Vâsettha.
7. Then the young Brahman Vâsettha said to the young Brahman Bhâradvâga:
'That Samana Gotama, Bhâradvâga, of the sons of the Sâkyas, who went out from
the Sâkya clan to adopt the religious life, is now staying at Manasâkata, in the
mango grove, on the bank of the river Akiravatî, to the north of Manasâkata. Now
regarding that venerable Gotama, such is the high reputation that has been
noised abroad: "That Exalted One is an Arahat, a fully enlightened one,
abounding in wisdom and goodness, happy, with knowledge of the worlds,
unsurpassed as a guide to mortals willing to be led, a teacher of gods and men,
an Exalted One, a Buddha."
{1. Ganghâvihâram anukankamantânam anuvikarantânam. Kankamati is to walk up and
down thinking. I have added 'after their bath,' from Buddhaghosa, who says that
this must be understood to have taken place when, after learning by heart and
repeating all day, they, went down in the evening to the riverside to bathe, and
then walked up and down on the sand. Comp. Mil. 22; Gât. II, 240, 272.}
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Come, then, Bhâradvâga, let us go to the place where the Samana Gotama is; and
when we have come there, let us ask the Samana Gotama touching this. matter.
What the Samana Gotama shall declare unto us, that let us bear in mind{1}.'
'Very well, my friend!' said the young Brahman Bhâradvâga, in assent, to the
young Brahman Vâsettha.
8. Then the young Brahman Vâsettha and the young Brahman Bhâradvâga went on
to the place where the Exalted One was.
And when they had come there, they exchanged with the Exalted One the
greetings and compliments of politeness and courtesy, and sat down beside him.
And while they were thus seated the young Brahman Vâsettha said to the Exalted
One:
'As we, Gotama, were taking exercise and walking up and down, there sprung up
a conversation between us on which was the true path, and which the false. I
said thus:
'"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation,
and leads him who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ. I
mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Pokkharasâdi."'
'Bhâradvâga said thus:
'"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation,
and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ. I
mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Târukkha."'
'Regarding this matter, Gotama, there is a strife, a dispute, a difference of
opinion between us.' [237]



9. 'So you say, Vâsettha, that you said thus:
'"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation,
and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ.
{1. Comp. Divyâvadâna 196, 246; and Anguttara II, pp. 23, 24.}
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I mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Pokkharasâdi."'
'While Bhâradvâga said thus:
'"This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for salvation,
and leads him, who acts according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ. I
mean that which has been announced by the Brahman Târukkha."'
'Wherein, then, O Vâsettha, is there a strife, a dispute, a difference of
opinion between you{1}?'
10. 'Concerning the true path and the false, Gotama. Various Brahmans,
Gotama, teach various paths. The Addhariyâ Brahmans, the Tittiriyâ Brahmans, the
Khandokâ Brahmans [the Khandavâ Brahmans], the Bavharigâ Brahmans{2}. Are all
those saving paths? Are they all paths which will lead him, who acts according
to them, into a state of union with Brahmâ?
'Just, Gotama, as near a village or a town there are many and various
paths{3}, yet they all meet together in the village--just in that way are all
the various paths taught by various Brahmans--the Addhariyâ Brahmans, the
Tittiriyâ Brahmans, the Khandokâ Brahmans [the Khandavâ Brahmans], the Bavharigâ
Brahmans. Are all these saving paths? Are they all paths which will lead him,
who acts according to them, into a state of union with Brahmâ?'
11. 'Do you say that they all lead aright, Vâsettha?
'I say so, Gotama.'
{1. This is either mildly sarcastic--as much as to say, 'that is six of one, and
half a dozen of the other'--or is intended to lead on Vâsettha to confess still
more directly the fact that the different theologians held inconsistent
opinions.
2. The MSS. differ as to the last name, and some of them omit the last but one.
The Adhvaryu, Taittîriya, Khandoga, and Bahvrika priests--those skilled in
liturgy generally, and in the Yagur, Sâma, and Rig Vedas respectively--are
probably meant. If we adopt the other reading for the last in the list, then
those priests who relied on liturgy, sacrifice, or chant would be contrasted
with those who had 'gone forth' as religieux, either as Tâpasas or as Bhikshus.
3. Maggâni, which is noteworthy as a curious change of gender.}
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'Do you really say that they all lead aright, Vâsettha?'
'So I say, Gotama.' [238]
12. 'But yet, Vâsettha, is there a single one of the Brahmans versed in the
Three Vedas who has ever seen Brahmâ face to face?'
'No, indeed, Gotama.'
'Or is there then, Vâsettha, a single one of the teachers of the Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas who has seen Brahmâ face to face?'
'No, indeed, Gotama!'
'Or is there then, Vâsettha, a single one of the teachers of the teachers of
the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas who has seen Brahmâ face to face?'
'No, indeed, Gotama!'
'Or is there then, Vâsettha, a single one of the Brahmans up to the seventh
generation who has seen Brahmâ face to face?'
'No, indeed, Gotama!'
13. 'Well then, Vâsettha, those ancient Rishis of the Brahmans versed in the
Three Vedas, the authors of the verses, the utterers of the verses, whose
ancient form of words so chanted, uttered, or composed, the Brahmans of to-day
chant over again or repeat; intoning or reciting exactly as has been intoned or
recited--to wit, Atthaka, Vâmaka, Vâmadeva, Vessâmitta, Yamataggi, Angirasa,
Bhâradvâga, Vâsettha, Kassapa, and Bhagu{1}--did even they speak thus, saying:
"We know it, we have seen it, where Brahmâ is, whence Brahmâ is, whither Brahmâ
is?"'
'Not so, Gotama!'
14. 'Then you say, Vâsettha, that none of the Brahmans, or of their teachers,
or of their pupils, [239] even up to the seventh generation, has ever seen
Brahmâ face to face. And that even the Rishis of old, the authors and utterers
of the verses, of the ancient form of words which the Brahmans of to-day so
carefully intone and recite precisely as they have
{1. See the note on these names at 'Vinaya Texts,' II, 130.}
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been handed down--even they did not pretend to know or to have seen where or
whence or whither Brahmâ is{1}. So that the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas
have forsooth said thus: "What we know not, what we have not seen, to a state of
union with that we can show the way, and can say: 'This is the straight path,
this is the direct way which makes for salvation, and leads him, who acts
according to it, into a state of union with Brahmâ!'"
'Now what think you, Vâsettha? Does it not follow, this being so, that the
talk of the Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, turns out to be
foolish talk?'
'In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'
15. 'Verily, Vâsettha. that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas should be able
to show the way to a state of union with that which they do not know, neither
have seen--such a condition of things can in no wise be!
'Just, Vâsettha, as when a string of blind men are clinging one to the
other{2}, neither can the foremost see, nor can the middle one see, nor can the
hindmost see--just even so, methinks, Vâsettha, is the talk of the Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas but blind talk: the first [240] sees not, the middle
one sees not, nor can the latest see. The talk then of these
{1. In the text §§ 12, 13 are repeated word for word.
2. Andhavenî paramparam samsattâ. The Phayre MS. has replaced venî by pavenî,
after the constant custom of the Burmese MSS. to improve away unusual or
difficult expressions. Buddhaghosa explains andhaveni by andhapaveni; and tells
a tale of a wicked wight, who meeting a company of blind men, told them of a
certain village wherein plenty of good food was to be had. When they besought
him for hire to lead them there, he took the money, made one blind man catch
hold of his stick, the next of that one, and so on, and then led them on till
they came to a wilderness. There he deserted them, and they all--still holding
each the other, and vainly, and with tears, seeking both their guide and the
path--came to a miserable end! Comp. M. II, 170.}
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Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas turns out to be ridiculous) mere words, a
vain and empty thing!'



16. 'Now what think you, Vâsettha? Can the Brahmans versed in the Three
Vedas--like other, ordinary, folk--see the Moon and the Sun as they pray to, and
praise, and worship them, turning round with clasped hands towards the place
whence they rise and where they set?'
'Certainly, Gotama, they can{1}.'
17. 'Now what think you, Vâsettha? The Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas,
who can very well--like other, ordinary, folk--see the Moon and the Sun as they
pray to, and praise, and worship them, turning round with clasped hands to the
place whence they rise and where they set--are those Brahmans, versed in the
Three Vedas, able to point out the way to a state of union with the Moon or the
Sun, saying: "This is the straight path, this the direct way which makes for
salvation, and leads him, who acts according to it, to a state of union with the
Moon or the Sun?"'
'Certainly, not, Gotama!'
18. 'So you say, Vâsettha, that the Brahmans are not able to point out the
way to union with that which they have seen, and you further say that neither
any one of them, nor of their pupils, [241] nor of their predecessors even to
the seventh generation has ever seen Brahmâ. And you further say that even the
Rishis of old, whose words they hold in such deep respect, did not pretend to
know, or to have seen where, or whence, or whither Brahmâ is. Yet these Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas say, forsooth, that they can point out the way to
union with that which they know not, neither have seen{2}. Now what
{1. The words of the question are repeated in the text in this and the following
answers. It must be remembered, for these sections, that the Sun and Moon were
gods just as much as Brahmâ; and that the Moon always comes first in Nikâya and
other ancient texts.
2. The text repeats at length the words of §§ 12, 13, 14.}
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think you, Vâsettha? Does it not follow that, this being so, the talk of the
Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, turns out to be foolish
talk?'
'In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'
19. 'Very good, Vâsettha. Verily then, Vâsettha, that Brahmans versed in the
Three Vedas should be able to show the way to a state of union with that which
they do not know, neither have seen--such a condition of things can in no wise
be!'



'Just, Vâsettha, as if a man should say, "How I long for, how I love the most
beautiful woman in this land!"
'And people should ask him, "Well! good friend! this most beautiful woman in
the land, whom you thus love and long for, do you know whether that beautiful
woman is a noble lady or a Brahman woman, or of the trader class, or a Sûdra?"
'But when so asked, he should answer: "No."
'And when people should ask him, "Well! good friend! this most beautiful
woman in all the land, whom you so love and long for, do you know [242] what the
name of that most beautiful woman is, or what is her family name, whether she be
tall or short or of medium height, dark or brunette or golden in colour, or in
what village or town or city she dwells?"
'But when so asked, he should answer: "No."
'And then people should say to him, "So then, good friend, whom you know not,
neither have seen, her do you love and long for?"
'And then when so asked, he should answer: "Yes."
'Now what think you, Vâsettha? Would it not turn out, that being so, that the
talk of that man was foolish talk?'
'In sooth, Gotama, it would turn out, that being so, that the talk of that
man was foolish talk!'
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20. 'And just even so, Vâsettha, though you say that the Brahmans are not
able to point out the way to union with that which they have seen, and you
further say that neither any one of them, nor of their pupils, nor of their
predecessors even to the seventh generation has ever seen Brahmâ. And you
further say that even the Rishis of old, whose words they hold in such deep
respect, did not pretend to know, or to have seen where, or whence, or whither
Brahmâ is. Yet these Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas say, forsooth, that they
can point out the way to union with that which they know not, neither have seen!
Now what think you, Vâsettha? Does it not follow that, this being so, the talk
of the Brahmans, versed though they be in the Three Vedas, is foolish talk?'
'In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'
'Very good, Vâsettha. Verily then, Vâsettha, that Brahmans versed in the
Three Vedas [243] should be able to show the way to a state of union with that
which they do not know, neither have seen--such a condition of things can in no
wise be.'



21. 'Just, Vâsettha, as if a man should make a staircase in the place where
four roads cross, to mount up into a mansion. And people should say to him,
"Well, good friend, this mansion, to mount up into which you are making this
staircase, do you know whether it is in the east, or in the south, or in the
west, or in the north? whether it is high or low or of medium size?'
'And when so asked, he should answer: "No."
'And people should say to him, "But then, good friend, you are making a
staircase to mount up into something--taking it for a mansion--which, all the
while, you know not, neither have seen!"
'And when so asked, he should answer: "Yes."
'Now what think you, Vâsettha? Would it not
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turn out, that being so, that the talk of that man was foolish talk?'
'In sooth, Gotama, it would turn out, that being so, that the talk of that
man was foolish talk!'
22. 'And just even so, Vâsettha, though you say that the Brahmans are not
able to point out the way to union with that which they have seen, and you
further say that neither any one of them, nor of their pupils, nor of their
predecessors even to the seventh generation has ever seen Brahmâ And you further
say that even the Rishis of old, whose words they hold in such deep respect, did
not pretend to know, or to have seen where, or whence, or whither Brahmâ is. Yet
these Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas say, forsooth, that they can point out
the way to union with that which they know not, neither have seen! Now what
think you, Vâsettha? Does it not follow that, this being so, the talk of the
Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk?'
'In sooth, Gotama, that being so, it follows that the talk of the Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas is foolish talk!'
23. 'Very good, Vâsettha. Verily then, Vâsettha, that Brahmans versed in the
Three Vedas should be able to show the way to a state of union with that which
they do not know, neither have seen--such a condition of things can in no wise
be.' [244]



24. 'Again, Vâsettha, if this river Akiravatî were full of water even to the
brim, and overflowing{1}. And a man with business on the other siJe, bound for
tlle other side, making for the otller side, should come up, and want to cross
over. And he, standing on this bank, should invoke the further bank, and say,
"Come hither, O further bank! come over to this side!"
'Now what think you, Vâsettha? Would the further bank of the river Akiravatî,
by reason of that man's
{1. Samatittika kâkapeyyâ. See on this phrase the note in my 'Buddhist Suttas'
(S. B. E.), pp. 178, 179.}
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invoking and praying and hoping and praising, come over to this side?'
'Certainly not, Gotama!'
25. 'In just the same way, Vâsettha, do the Brahmans versed in the Three
Vedas--omitting the practice of those qualities which really make a man a
Brahman, and adopting the practice of those qualities which really make men
non-Brahmans--say thus: "Indra we call upon, Soma we call upon, Varuna we call
upon, Îsâna we call upon, Pagâpati we call upon, Brahmâ we call upon, [Mahiddhi
we call upon, Yama we call upon{1}!]" Verily, Vâsettha, that those Brahmans
versed in the Three Vedas, [245] but omitting the practice of those qualities
which really make a man a Brahman, and adopting the practice of those qualities
which really make men non-Brahmans--that they, by reason of their invoking and
praying and hoping and praising, should, after death and when the body is
dissolved, become united with Brahmâ--verily such a condition of things can in
no wise be{2}!'



26. 'Just, Vâsettha, as if this river Akiravatî were full, even to the brim,
and overflowing. And a man with business on the other side, making for the other
side, bound for the other side, should come up, and want to cross over. And he,
on this bank, were to be bound tightly, with his arms behind his back, by a
strong chain. Now what think you, Vâsettha, would that man be able to get over
from this bank of the river Akiravatî to the further bank?'
'Certainly not, Gotama!'
27. 'In the same way, Vâsettha, there are five things
{1. The Sinhalese MSS. omit Mahiddhi and Yama, but repeat the verb, 'we call
upon,' three times after Brahmâ. It is possible that the Burmese copyist has
wrongly inserted them to remove the strangeness of this repetition. The comment
is silent.
2. The Buddha, as usual, here takes the 'further bank' in the meaning attached
to it by the theologians he is talking to, as union with Brahmâ. In his own
system, of course, the 'further bank' is Arahatship. So Anguttara V, 232, 233,
and elsewhere.}
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leading to lust, which are called, in the Discipline of the Arahats, a "chain"
and a "bond."'
'What are the five?'
'Forms perceptible to the eye; desirable, agreeable, pleasant, attractive
forms, that are accompanied by lust and cause delight. Sounds of the same kind
perceptible to the ear. Odours of the same kind perceptible to the nose. Tastes
of the same kind perceptible to the tongue. Substances of the same kind
perceptible to the body by touch. These five things predisposing to passion are
called, in the Discipline of the Arahats, a "chain" and a "bond." And these five
things predisposing to lust, Vâsettha, do the Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas
cling to, they are infatuated by them, attached to them, see not the danger of
them, know not how unreliable they are, and so enjoy them{1}.'
28. 'And verily, Vâsettha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, but
omitting the practice of those qualities which really make a man a Brahman, and
adopting the practice of those qualities which really make men
non-Brahmans--[246] clinging to these five things predisposing to passion,
infatuated by them, attached to them, seeing not their danger, knowing not their
unreliability, and so enjoying them--that these Brahmans should after death, on
the dissolution of the body, become united to Brahmâ--such a condition of things
can in no wise be!'



29. 'Again, Vâsettha, if this river Akiravatî were full of water even to the
brim, and overflowing. And a man with business on the other side, making for the
other side, bound for the other side, should come up, and want to cross over.
And if he covering himself up, even to his head, were to lie down, on this bank,
to sleep.
'Now what think you, Vâsettha? Would that man
{1. Gathitâ mukkhitâ agghopannâ. See A. I, 74, 274; Udâna VII, 3, 4; Sum. 59,
&c.}
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be able to get over from this bank of the river Akiravatî to the further bank?'
'Certainly not, Gotama!'
30. 'And in the same way, Vâsettha, there are these Five Hindrances, in the
Discipline of the Arahats{1}, which are called "veils," and are called
"hindrances," and are called "obstacles," and are called "entanglements."'
'Which are the five?'
'The hindrance of worldly lusts,
'The hindrance of illwill,
'The hindrance of torpor and sloth of heart a mind,
'The hindrance of flurry and worry,
'The hindrance of suspense.
'These are the Five Hindrances, Vâsettha, which. in the Discipline of the
Arahats, are called veils, and are called hindrances, and are called obstacles,
and are called entanglements{2}.
'Now with these Five Hindrances, Vâsettha, the Brahmans versed in the Three
Vedas are veiled, hindered, obstructed, and entangled.
'And verily, Vâsettha, that Brahmans versed in the Three Vedas, but omitting
the practice of those qualities which really make a man a Brahman, and adopting
the practice of those qualities which really make men non-Brahmans--veiled,
hindered, obstructed, and entangled by these Five Hindrances--that these
Brahmans should after death, on the dissolution of the body, [247] become united
to Brahmâ--such a condition of things can in no wise be!'



31. 'Now what think you, Vâsettha, and what have you heard from the Brahmans
aged and well-stricken in years, when the learners and teachers are talking
{1. Ariyassa vinaye. This may possibly mean 'in the disciple recommended by the
Arahat' (that is, by the Buddha). But the latter is expressed rather by
Sugata-vinaye. Comp. Anguttara V, 237-239 with 234, 235.
2. These Five Hindrances are more fully dealt with above, p. 82.}
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together? Is Brahmâ in possession of wives and wealth, or is he not{1}?'
'He is not, Gotama.'
'Is his mind full of anger, or free from anger?'
'Free from anger, Gotama.'
'Is his mind full of malice, or free from malice?'
'Free from malice, Gotama.'
'Is his mind tarnished, or is it pure{2}?'
'It is pure, Gotama.'
'Has he self-mastery, or has he not{3}?'
'He has, Gotama.'
32. 'Now what think you, Vâsettha, are the Brahmans versed in the Vedas in
the possession of wives and wealth, or are they not?'
'They are, Gotama.'
'Have they anger in their hearts, or have they not?'
'They have, Gotama.'
'Do they bear malice, or do they not?'
'They do, Gotama.'
'Are they pure in heart, or are they not?'
'They are not, Gotama.'
'Have they self-mastery, or have they not?'
'They have not, Gotama.'
33. 'Then you say, Vâsettha, that the Brahmans are in possession of wives and
wealth, and that Brahmâ is not. Can there, then, be agreement and likeness
between the Brahmans with their wives and property, and Brahmâ, who has none of
these things?'
{1. Sapariggaho vâ Brahmâ apariggaho vâ ti. Buddhaghosa says on Vâsettha's
reply, 'Kâmakkhandassa âbhavato itthipariggahena apariggaho,' thus restricting
the 'possession' to women. But the reference is no doubt to the first
'hindrance'; and the word in the text, though doubtless alluding to possession
of women also, includes more. Compare, on the general idea of the passage, the
English expression, 'no encumbrances,' and Jacobi, 'Gaina-Sûtras' (S. B. E.) I,
xxiii.
2. Asankilittha-kitto. That is, says Buddhaghosa, 'free from mental torpor and
idleness, worry and flurry.'
3. Vasavattî vâ avasavattî vâ. Buddhaghosa says, in explanation of the answer,
'By the absence of wavering he has his mind under control (vase vatteti).'}
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'Certainly not, Gotama!'
34. 'Very good, Vâsettha. But, verily, that these Brahmans versed in the
Vedas, who live married and wealthy, should after death, when the body is
dissolved, [248] become united with Brahmâ who has none of these things--such a
condition of things can in no wise be!'



35. 'Then you say, too, Vâsettha, that the Brahmans bear anger and malice in
their hearts. and are tarnished in heart and uncontrolled, whilst Brahmâ is free
from anger and malice, pure in heart, and has self-mastery. Now can there, then,
be concord and likeness between the Brahmans and Brahmâ?'
'Certainly not, Gotama!'
36. 'Very good, Vâsettha. That these Brahmans versed in the Vedas and yet
bearing anger and malice in their hearts, sinful, and uncontrolled, should after
death, when the body is dissolved, become united to Brahmâ, who is free from
anger and malice, pure in heart, and has self-mastery--such a condition of
things can in no wise be!
'So that thus then, Vâsettha, the Brahmans, versed though they be in the
Three Vedas, while they sit down (in confidence), are sinking down (in the
mire){1}; and so sinking they are arriving only at despair, thinking the while
that they are crossing over into some happier land.
'Therefore is it that the threefold wisdom of the Brahmans, wise in their
Three Vedas, is called a waterless desert, their threefold wisdom is called a
pathless jungle, their threefold wisdom is called perdition!'



37. 'When he had thus spoken, the young Brahman Vâsettha said to the Blessed
One:
{1. Âsîditva samsîdanti. I have no doubt the commentator is right in his
explanation of these figurative expressions. Confident in their knowledge of the
Vedas, and in their practice of Vedic ceremonies, they neglect higher things;
and so, sinking into folly and superstition, 'they are arriving only at despair,
thinking the while that they are crossing over into some happier land.'}
{p. 315}
'It has been told me, Gotama, that the Samana Gotama knows the way to the
state of union with Brahmâ.'
'What do you think, Vâsettha, is not Manasâkata near to this spot, not
distant from this spot?'
'Just so, Gotama, Manasâkata is near to, is not far from here.'
'Now what think you, Vâsettha, suppose there were a man born in Manasâkata,
and people should ask him, who never till that time had left Manasâkata, [249]
which was the way to Manasâkata. Would that man, born and brought up in
Manasâkata, be in any doubt or difficulty?'
'Certainly not, Gotama! And why? If the man had been born and brought up in
Manasâkata, every road that leads to Manasâkata would be perfectly familiar to
him.'
38. 'That man, Vâsettha, born and brought up at Manasâkata might, if he were
asked the way to Manasâkata, fall into doubt and difficulty, but to the
Tathâgata, when asked touching the path which leads to the world of Brahmâ,
there can be neither doubt nor difficulty. For Brahmâ, I know, Vâsettha, and the
world of Brahmâ, and the path which leadeth unto it. Yea, I know it even as one
who has entered the Brahmâ-world, and has been born within it!'



39. When he had thus spoken, Vâsettha, the young Brahman, said to the Blessed
One:
'Just so has it been told me, Gotama, even that the Samana Gotama knows the
way to a state of union with Brahmâ. It is well! Let the venerable Gotama be
pleased to show us the way to a state of union with Brahmâ, let the venerable
Gotama save the Brahman race{1}!'
'Listen then, Vâsettha, and give ear attentively, and I will speak!'
{1. Buddhaghosa takes this to mean, 'Save me of the Brahman race.'}
{p. 316}
'So be it, Lord!' said the young Brahman Vâsettha, in assent, to the Blessed
One.
40. 'Then the Blessed One spake, and said: 'Know, Vâsettha, that (from time
to time) a Tathâgata is born into the world, an Arahat, a fully awakened one,
abounding in wisdom and goodness, happy, with knowledge of the worlds,
unsurpassed as a guide to mortals willing to be led, a teacher of gods and men,
a Blessed One, a Buddha. He, by himself, thoroughly understands, and sees, as it
were, face to face this universe--including the worlds above with the gods, the
Mâras, and the Brahmâs; and the world below with its Samanas and Brahmans, its
princes and peoples;--and he then makes his knowledge known to others. The truth
doth he proclaim both in the letter and in the spirit, lovely in its origin,
lovely in its progress, lovely in its consummation: the higher life doth he make
known, in all its purity and in all its perfectness.
41. 'A householder (gahapati), or one of his children, or a man of inferior
birth in any class, listens to that truth{1}. On hearing the truth he has faith
in the Tathâgata, and when he has acquired that faith he thus considers with
himself:
'"Full of hindrances is household life, a path defiled by passion: free as
the air is the life of him who has renounced all worldly things. How difficult
it is for the man who dwells at home to live the higher life in all its
fullness, in all its purity, in all its bright perfection! Let me then cut off
my hair and beard, let me clothe myself in the orange-coloured robes, and let me
go forth from a household life into the homeless state!"
'Then before long, forsaking his portion of wealth, be it great or be it
small; forsaking his circle of relatives, be they many or be they few, he cuts
off his hair and beard, he clothes himself in the orange-coloured
{1. The point is, that the acceptance of this'Doctrine and Discipline' is open
to all; not of course that Brahmans never accept it.}
{p. 317}
robes, and he goes forth from the household life into the homeless state.
42. 'When he has thus become a recluse he passes a life self-restrained by
that restraint which should be binding on a recluse. Uprightness is his delight,
and he sees danger in the least of those things he should avoid. He adopts and
trains himself in the precepts. He encompasses himself with goodness in word and
deed. He sustains his life by means that are quite pure; good is his conduct,
guarded the door of his senses; mindful and self-possessed, he is altogether
happy!' [250]
43-75. 'And how, Vâsettha, is his conduct good?'
[The answer is set forth in the words of the tract on the Sîlas, translated
above, pp. 3-26, but with the refrain as in the Sâmañña-phala Suttanta above, p.
79. Then follow §§ 63-75, inclusive, of the Sâmañña-phala; setting forth:--
1. The confidence of heart that results from the sense of goodness.
2. The way in which he guards the doors of his senses.
3. The way in which he is mindful and self-possessed.
4. His habit of being content with little, of adopting simplicity of life.
5. His conquest of the Five Hindrances, each with the explanatory simile.
6. The joy and peace which, as a result of this conquest, fills his whole
being.]
76. {1}'And he lets his mind pervade one quarter of
{1. These paragraphs occur frequently; see, inter alia, Mahâ-Sudassana Sutta II,
8, in my 'Buddhist Suttas' (S. B. E.). It will be seen from 'Buddhism.' pp. 170,
171, that these meditations play a great part in later Buddhism, and occupy very
much the place that prayer takes in Christianity. A fifth, the meditation on
Impurity, has been added, at what time I do not know, before the last. These
four (or five) are called the Brahma Vihâras, and the practice of them leads,
not to Arahatship, but to rebirth in the Brahmâ-world.}
{p. 318}
the world with thoughts of Love [251], and so the second, and so the third, and
so the fourth. And thus the whole wide world, above, below, around, and
everywhere, does he continue to pervade with heart of Love, far-reaching, grown
great, and beyond measure.
77. 'Just, Vâsettha, as a mighty trumpeter makes himself heard--and that
without difficulty--in all the four directions; even so of all things that have
shape or life, there is not one that he passes by or leaves aside, but regards
them all with mind set free, and deep-felt love.
'Verily this, Vâsettha, is the way to a state of union with Brahmâ.
78. 'And he lets his mind pervade one quarter of the world with thoughts of
pity{1}, . . . sympathy{1}, . . . equanimity{1}, and so the second, and so the
third, and so the fourth. And thus the whole wide world, above, below, around,
and everywhere, does he continue to pervade with heart of pity, . . . sympathy,
. . . equanimity, far-reaching, grown great, and beyond measure.
79. 'Just, Vâsettha, as a mighty trumpeter makes himself heard--and that
without difficulty--in all the four directions; even so of all things that have
shape or life, there is not one that he passes by or leaves aside, but regards
them all with mind set free, and deep-felt pity, . . . sympathy, . . .
equanimity.
'Verily this, Vâsettha, is the way to a state of union with Brahmâ.'



80. 'Now what think you, Vâsettha, will the Bhikkhu who lives thus be in
possession of women and of wealth, or will he not?'
'He will not, Gotama!'
'Will he be full of anger, or free from anger?'
'He will be free from anger, Gotama!'
'Will his mind be full of malice, or free from malice?'
{1. Paragraphs 76, 77 are supposed to be repeated of each.}
{p. 319}
'Free from malice, Gotama!'
'Will his mind be tarnished, or pure?'
'It will be pure, Gotama!'
'Will he have self-mastery, or will he not?'
'Surely he will, Gotama!' [252]
81. 'Then you say, Vâsettha, that the Bhikkhu is free from household and
worldly cares, and that Brahmâ is free from household and worldly cares. Is
there then agreement and likeness between the Bhikkhu and Brahmâ?'
'There is, Gotama!'
'Very good, Vâsettha. Then in sooth, Vâsettha, that the Bhikkhu who is free
from household cares should after death, when the body is dissolved, become
united with Brahmâ, who is the same-such a condition of things is every way
possible!
'And so you say, Vâsettha, that the Bhikkhu is free from anger, and free from
malice, pure in mind, and master of himself; and that Brahmâ is free from anger,
and free from malice. pure in mind, and master of himself. Then in sooth,
Vâsettha, that the Bhikkhu who is free from anger, free from malice, pure in
mind, and master of himself should after death, when the body is dissolved,
become united with Brahmâ, who is the same-such a condition of things is every
way possible!'



82. 'When he had thus spoken, the young Brahmans Vâsettha and Bhâradvâga
addressed the Blessed One, and said:
'Most excellent, Lord, are the words of thy mouth, most excellent! Just as if
a man were to set up that which is thrown down, or were to reveal that which is
hidden away, or were to point out the right road to him who has gone astray, or
were to bring a lamp into the darkness, so that those who have eyes can see
external forms;--just even so, Lord, has the truth been made known to us, in
many a figure, by the Exalted One. And we, even we, betake ourselves, Lord, to
the Blessed One as our guide, to the Truth,
{p. 320}
and to the Brotherhood. May the Blessed One accept us as disciples, as true
believers, from this day forth, as long as life endures!'



Here ends the Tevijja Suttanta{1}.
{1. Literally 'The Suttanta about those who have the knowledge of the Three
(Vedas).' See p. 303, where the names of these 'doctors' are given.}